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軍武器硏 114集 2019年09月09日 主持: Larry , Alexei

第一節: MIG-35亮相航展/MIG-29為原型/印度金援米格機發展/4++戰機準則/MIG-35纏鬥力強/試飛機翼掉落配件/米格潛在買家/出口版與FC-31相似/印度購買取代艦載機及MIG-21/美軍聯合東協南海演習

第二節: 杜魯門號故障停航/大西洋剩一艦調度/駐韓美軍2021部署40架F-35A/220架F-35圍堵中國/Su-35阻截以色列轟炸敍利亞/以色列未用F-35I

第三節: 波蘭或購最新F-35 Block 4/彈艙可射6發飛彈/日本開發F-2後續機種/洛馬F-57 或 國造F-3/日本最新海巡艦/夜間作戰對中共構成威脅

第四節: 翼龍-2莫斯科參展/起落架斷裂武器失蹤/台灣或購新機載偵測筴艙/偵照距離超越RF-16鳳眼計劃/台灣成立聯合兵種營/解放軍聯合作戰犯台未達標

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軍武器硏 114集 2019年09月09日 主持: Larry , Alexei

第一節: MIG-35亮相航展/MIG-29為原型/印度金援米格機發展/4++戰機準則/MIG-35纏鬥力強/試飛機翼掉落配件/米格潛在買家/出口版與FC-31相似/印度購買取代艦載機及MIG-21/美軍聯合東協南海演習

第二節: 杜魯門號故障停航/大西洋剩一艦調度/駐韓美軍2021部署40架F-35A/220架F-35圍堵中國/Su-35阻截以色列轟炸敍利亞/以色列未用F-35I

第三節: 波蘭或購最新F-35 Block 4/彈艙可射6發飛彈/日本開發F-2後續機種/洛馬F-57 或 國造F-3/日本最新海巡艦/夜間作戰對中共構成威脅

第四節: 翼龍-2莫斯科參展/起落架斷裂武器失蹤/台灣或購新機載偵測筴艙/偵照距離超越RF-16鳳眼計劃/台灣成立聯合兵種營/解放軍聯合作戰犯台未達標

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軍武器硏 114集 2019年09月09日 主持: Larry , Alexei

第一節: MIG-35亮相航展/MIG-29為原型/印度金援米格機發展/4++戰機準則/MIG-35纏鬥力強/試飛機翼掉落配件/米格潛在買家/出口版與FC-31相似/印度購買取代艦載機及MIG-21/美軍聯合東協南海演習

第二節: 杜魯門號故障停航/大西洋剩一艦調度/駐韓美軍2021部署40架F-35A/220架F-35圍堵中國/Su-35阻截以色列轟炸敍利亞/以色列未用F-35I

第三節: 波蘭或購最新F-35 Block 4/彈艙可射6發飛彈/日本開發F-2後續機種/洛馬F-57 或 國造F-3/日本最新海巡艦/夜間作戰對中共構成威脅

第四節: 翼龍-2莫斯科參展/起落架斷裂武器失蹤/台灣或購新機載偵測筴艙/偵照距離超越RF-16鳳眼計劃/台灣成立聯合兵種營/解放軍聯合作戰犯台未達標

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標題[情報] MIG-35進入最終測試階段,即將正式服役
時間Mon May 10 23:03:52 2021

https://reurl.cc/Gd86QD

說真的,MIG-29系列也算是冷戰結束後的受害者之一吧
不過早期版MIG-29的航電真的是廢到笑,航程又超短
前東歐共產國家的MIG-29都是用到報廢後就直接淘汰,直接換美國或歐洲戰機
獨立國協加盟國不少國家也是偏向以SU-27系列汰換掉MIG-29

米高揚設計局很長一段時間沒有接到MIG-29系列的大單
MIG-35應該是MIG-29系列的最終絕唱
但是無論是俄羅斯自家的訂單還是外銷訂單都不是很樂觀
(F-16國民機和自家SU-27系列甚至JAS-39都是強勁對手)
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→ kuma660224 : 蘇聯早期定位它是不挑跑道的局地戰05/10 23:10
→ kuma660224 : 超爛的臨時野戰跑道也能起降05/10 23:10
→ kuma660224 : 能前進部署超近前線甚至敵境臨時機場05/10 23:12
→ kuma660224 : 但其他國家或冷戰結束 就不適應現實05/10 23:13
→ kuma660224 : 後來大改幾版都是砍野戰特化設計改塞油05/10 23:14
→ kuma660224 : 不過Mig35也太可憐了 2021年了 05/10 23:16
→ kuma660224 : 搞新機型，還是只有機掃技術...05/10 23:16
→ kuma660224 : 有些高教機或LCA1A都正要玩電掃技術...05/10 23:18
→ kuma660224 : 應該是俄國自己也沒有愛了....05/10 23:18
MIG-35的機鼻雷達罩容量,要塞電掃AESA雷達絕對不是問題
→ kuma660224 : 電子好東西想給SU57都嫌錢不夠花05/10 23:19
→ kuma660224 : 那輪得到全新雞肋機05/10 23:20
→ kuma660224 : 這批末代米格是怕產線停掉就沒了 硬買05/10 23:21
→ kuma660224 : 血統繼承艦載Mig29K的陸基衍生型05/10 23:22
推 mmmimi11tw : 想當年米格那麼輝煌，現在05/10 23:34
→ kuma660224 : 鼻子小很多的rafale連GaN都要上了05/10 23:37
→ kuma660224 : 母國有愛啊05/10 23:37
推 Su22 : 米格家族再怎麼魔改,最終還是要被咱蘇霍伊家族打趴05/10 23:37
推 WINONIA : MIG-29論外型真的很漂亮 感覺是那世代最好看的戰機05/10 23:39
推 ja23072008 : 飛不過聶伯河的老鷹/機場圍牆保衛者05/10 23:42
→ kuma660224 : WW3核暴風襲捲地標後 就是它的天下了05/10 23:49
→ kuma660224 : 中東歐亂七八糟的場地 只剩它能飛 05/10 23:49
→ kuma660224 : 全開AB短場跑道拉起不到300米05/10 23:51
→ kuma660224 : 其他嬌生慣養的戰姬 沒一個爬的起來05/10 23:52
→ kuma660224 : 原生支點是蠻特規奇葩的理念05/10 23:57
→ kuma660224 : 據說因為雙發成本也不低 不是高低配05/10 23:57
→ kuma660224 : 是縱深長腿姬配野戰局地戰姬05/10 23:58
推 gsx56840 : mig29就是靠政治力量上馬的東西...跟su27共用氣動外 05/11 01:01
→ gsx56840 : 型但是腿超短，所以才會賣不好05/11 01:01
→ gsx56840 : 但mig29在當時的時空背景還是很重要，su27因為砍掉05/11 01:03
→ gsx56840 : 重練拖到1987才服役，如果沒有mig29，蘇聯只能用mig05/11 01:03
→ gsx56840 : 23去對抗美國的四代機05/11 01:03
MIG-23/25和SU-15還有既有的MIG-21
對上北約(外加中立但同屬自由圈的芬蘭瑞典瑞士奧地利還有當時暫離北約的法國)
的2~4代機,根本等著被一面倒大屠殺

這就是40年前華約組織的窘境,那時候蘇聯連MIG-31都還沒服役
→ kuma660224 : 冷戰Mig29特性跟SU27完全不同05/11 01:13
→ kuma660224 : 不能用後世的多用途來評判說硬上05/11 01:14
→ kuma660224 : 冷戰賦予支點的任務 是SU27辦不到的05/11 01:15
→ kuma660224 : SU27設定是遠程後方機場飛向前線作戰05/11 01:27
→ kuma660224 : Mig29是前線很爛的野戰機場直接起降05/11 01:28
→ kuma660224 : 為了這目的而導致浪費空間而短腿 05/11 01:28
推 ayaneru : 米格還有呼吸喔05/11 03:48
→ eemail : 它最大失敗該是用雙引擎05/11 06:00
→ Tieylea : 不用雙引擎就沒辦法搞野戰短場起降 就算搞單發RD3305/11 08:17
→ Tieylea : 的最大推力還輸給同期的F100pw100一大截 老話一句05/11 08:17
→ Tieylea : 這玩意是專為蘇聯國土防禦跟ww3特化過的產品05/11 08:17
推 stormcrow : 之前不是說兩家合併了嗎？ 05/11 08:23
→ SIL : 設定在環境惡劣的野戰機場操作，應該是不敢賭單發05/11 08:26
→ kuma660224 : 他是靠雙發暴力推重比 短場拉起來05/11 09:02
推 ben101068 : Mig29@RIAT2015: https://youtu.be/xzwL_6NuEls05/11 09:06
→ kuma660224 : 而是當年冷戰早期渦扇壽命超低的...05/11 09:06
→ kuma660224 : 當時敢用單發的話 原型機不知道摔多少05/11 09:07
現在俄國發動機的故障率和壽命，跟美系歐系發動機一比還是有落差

然後中國居然在J-10上只敢用一顆AL-31/WS-10，科科！
→ kuma660224 : 21世紀的AL31F好歹大贏1990得 05/11 10:52
→ kuma660224 : 用單發也算ok 只是可靠不如歐美 05/11 10:53
但是J-10還要用複合掛架才能4中2短
MIG-35理論上連R-37M都能射了
推 TF00207374 : 只剩艦載機的可能性了吧 05/11 11:41
推 alwayshigh : 當時接班的領導葉爾欽(當然翻譯)算溫和派，而且解 05/11 11:56
→ alwayshigh : 體後沒辦法搞事了開始跟歐美就交流多了起來。引擎 05/11 11:56
→ alwayshigh : 技術壽命後面也提升了不少，不過對岸那時引進的SU2 05/11 11:56
→ alwayshigh : 7SK還是短壽型，我們同期換裝還在飛他們的SU27SK記 05/11 11:56
→ alwayshigh : 得退光了，MIG就更缺錢了同時期基本沒啥大更新，引 05/11 11:56
→ alwayshigh : 擎噴黑煙一直存在更重要MIG29價格真沒比SU27便宜太 05/11 11:56
→ alwayshigh : 多還腿短，所以內外銷一直慘米格公司現在確實被蘇 05/11 11:56
→ alwayshigh : 霍伊集團收購並入了 05/11 11:56
推 ickice520 : 連模型收集狂印度都不收了！ 05/11 12:47
推 overno : 印度有mig27k啊 05/11 12:51
→ kuma660224 : 印度沒有不收喔 mig35源自是印度mig29K 05/11 13:04
→ kuma660224 : 是去掉艦載設計的陸基版 05/11 13:04
→ kuma660224 : 是俄國想改名轉運 所以29變35 05/11 13:05
→ kuma660224 : 產線是直接延續的同一條線 05/11 13:05
→ kuma660224 : 它還期待外銷 所以餵食陸基型延續產線 05/11 13:06
→ kuma660224 : 埃及有買 一批 堪稱冷戰解體後的 05/11 13:13
→ kuma660224 : 米格支點最大外銷訂單...只有50架 05/11 13:13
→ kuma660224 : 洛馬戰隼：可憐哪..... 05/11 13:13
推 overno : 等等，你說mig29=mig35？！su35好歹有大升級 05/11 13:16
→ yamatobar : 除非俄國拿出MIG-35+R-37M的套餐，不然MIG-35真的 05/11 13:17
→ yamatobar : 很難賣 05/11 13:17
→ moeliliacg : 俄系的那種大升級 你換美系只是換個字母而已 05/11 13:18
→ moeliliacg : 連編號都換的話 除非是真的大改機體 不然都是商業 05/11 13:19
→ moeliliacg : 考量 05/11 13:19
→ moeliliacg : 另外美系也有實際上全新機 但為了預算 故意用舊的 05/11 13:19
→ moeliliacg : 編號的情況 05/11 13:20
→ moeliliacg : 所以說你還是要從該機型的歷史跟發展來看 05/11 13:20
→ moeliliacg : 到底是哪種類型 05/11 13:20
→ alwayshigh : 冷戰解體後裝備有MIG29的幾個國家含前東德，都被大 05/11 13:21
→ alwayshigh : 家輪流上美帝北約基本都摸透了就沒啥神秘感吸引力 05/11 13:21
→ alwayshigh : 了，不像SU27本土重點才有比較有吸引力效費比又比 05/11 13:21
→ alwayshigh : 短腿MIG29好 05/11 13:21
→ kuma660224 : SU35是因側衛賣很好 所以有錢投資升級 05/11 13:23
→ kuma660224 : Mig35其實就Mig29M2也算大改了 05/11 13:24
→ kuma660224 : 但課金程度遠不如SU35是必然 05/11 13:24
→ kuma660224 : SU35魔改是兼幫SU57測試新技術新裝備 05/11 13:25
→ kuma660224 : 米格29/35的改良主要是增油增程多用途 05/11 13:25
→ kuma660224 : 讓自己更像正常西方多用途4代機 05/11 13:26
→ kuma660224 : 畢竟冷戰原本野戰短場定位太奇葩了 05/11 13:26
→ kuma660224 : 時空背景不同 所以米格繞了一圈 05/11 13:28
→ kuma660224 : 只做到原本80年代西方在做的事 05/11 13:28
→ kuma660224 : 而超側衛則享受5代部分技術下放之福 05/11 13:29
→ kuma660224 : 備受國內外客戶關愛 05/11 13:29
→ yamatobar : 所以我才說MIG-35要賣，絕對要拿出能搭配R-37M的組 05/11 13:46
→ yamatobar : 合餐，不然誰要買單？ 05/11 13:46
→ yamatobar : F-16V都能射AIM-120C7和AIM-9X BLOCK2了 05/11 13:50
→ yamatobar : 未來F-16V射AIM-120D也不是不可能 05/11 13:51
→ yamatobar : F-15EX更別說了，AIM-120D絕對能射 05/11 13:53
推 qsgjnmvb : 120D 16V要射 要改哪裡 火控？ 05/11 14:46
→ kuma660224 : R37M發揮需要SU35/MIG31那大雷達 05/11 15:48
→ kuma660224 : Mig35直徑600多mm的機掃 太陽春了 05/11 15:52
→ kuma660224 : Rafale孔徑雖然也小 但他很“課金” 05/11 15:54
→ kuma660224 : PESA不用了 換GaAS主動又再要換GaN 05/11 15:55
→ kuma660224 : Mig35定位太低 電子技術不行 又不想太貴 05/11 15:56
→ kuma660224 : F16V是西方電子技術+大量分母分攤 05/11 15:57
→ kuma660224 : 要能當盟國主力工作馬 05/11 15:58
→ kuma660224 : Mig35講白了 只是當破產版的小側衛 05/11 16:00
→ kuma660224 : 但側衛其實也不貴，沒多少人要破產版的 05/11 16:00
→ kuma660224 : 側衛就算毛子電子技術不如人 還能靠 05/11 16:02
→ kuma660224 : 大機頭與堆料 塞直徑900mm級天線 05/11 16:02
→ kuma660224 : 以及夠多機櫃與散熱模組 05/11 16:02
→ moeliliacg : 破百或數百公里以上的射程 已經不是靠單機雷達能 05/11 16:04
→ moeliliacg : 完全發揮的程度 你需要的是整合友軍資料鏈的建設 05/11 16:04
→ moeliliacg : 包含預警機或其他僚機中繼/提供資訊 05/11 16:05
→ kuma660224 : Mig31BM那電子怪物1400mm直徑的電掃 05/11 16:06
→ moeliliacg : 簡單來說就是砸很多很多錢到C4ISR上面 05/11 16:07
→ kuma660224 : 應該有能力超遠距離距離鎖定 05/11 16:07
→ kuma660224 : 那是B1R重轟同等級的機頭直徑 05/11 16:08
→ kuma660224 : 俄式美學肌肉姬 05/11 16:09
→ kuma660224 : Mig35的話 我連它能否發揮R77M1都懷疑 05/11 16:11
→ kuma660224 : 毛子原本高油價錢多多時也考慮給 05/11 16:29
→ kuma660224 : Mig29/35研發Zhuk-AE電掃 用西方運算元件 05/11 16:29
→ kuma660224 : 比較有可能發揮增程版R77M1 05/11 16:31
→ kuma660224 : 各種明顯政治經濟原因最後什麼都沒有 05/11 16:32
我覺得以現在的局勢
俄國MIG-35和其他俄系戰機獲得西方先進電子技術強化各方面戰力的機會
可能性還高過中國戰機獲得西方先進電子技術
推 overno : 那也只有外銷版本才有機會，就外廠改裝車模式，跟 05/11 19:36
→ overno : 原廠沒關係 05/11 19:36
→ kuma660224 : mig35要魔改大概只能外銷版然後 05/11 20:19
→ kuma660224 : 顧客自己找猶太裝電掃搭西方夾艙之類 05/11 20:19
不過猶太的電掃AESA雷達,能不能吃所有俄系機載彈藥也是問題
(俄國可不希望彈藥參數全部外洩給以色列)
※ 編輯: yamatobar (1.171.157.246 臺灣), 05/11/2021 20:44:47
→ kuma660224 : 早期猶太機掃配過不少國家的mig21 05/11 21:00
→ kuma660224 : 但當年WVR彈藥比較簡單 05/11 21:01
→ kuma660224 : 現在就要看俄國肯不肯給猶太整合 05/11 21:01
推 squall021 : 美國假想敵中隊的mig29不曉得現況如何？用這麼久部 05/11 21:19
→ squall021 : 分零件可能沒得買，要用殺肉來維持妥善率了。 05/11 21:19
推 mackulkov : 看起來百葉窗不見了？這樣內部結構應該有大改吧 05/12 16:42






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State tests of Russia's advanced Su-57 fifth-generation fighters will be completed this year, while trials of MiG-35 fighters are planned to ...

#86. Would you choose a MiG-35 over an Su-30 or Su-35? | Key Aero

In the case you are a small/poor/landlocked nation (except Kazahstan or Ethiopia) Mig-35, if you are one with a great sea surface to patrol,Su- ...

#87. MiG-35 is frontrunner in Bangladesh Air Force tender: CAWAT

Russia's Su-35, MiG-35 and Su-30SM are the leading contenders in the tender, the CAWAT official said. The MiG-35 is the only Russian ...

#88. CAATSA ou PESA: por que alguns países decidiram não ...

Jacarta tinha planos de comprar pelo menos 11 Su-35 por US$ 1,14 bilhão. Agora, a Indonésia adquirirá o Dassault Rafale ou o Boeing F-15EX Eagle ...

#89. Russia Confirms Delivery of 10 Su-35 Fighter Jets to China by ...

China is expected to receive its last batch of Russian Sukhoi Su-35 multirole fighters this year.